When the Response to Discipline is Anger

The period immediately after a spanking is important, especially in that it will set the tone for later on. Usually, a wife’s response is in becoming peaceful, and in being quick to show her submissiveness. Some couples grow closer for a time after a spanking. However, even a wife who knows she needs to be spanked at times, can react in the wrong way to a spanking, often harboring negative feelings quietly, or expressing them more boldly. These wrong reactions can be avoided, and be done away with completely, by learning to deal with them, both by husband and wife.

A wife may feel bitter towards her husband, because of her ego. She did not like having to apologize, and she did not like having to admit her wrong. She may mouth that she is sorry, but she hates having to say it, and she is angry at her man for correcting her. She may also react against the pain of a spanking, especially in the days afterward, if her bottom is still sore, as she is still paying the price. She may be resentful that her husband made her feel that way, and blame him for making her day more difficult. She starts to shift blame to him, instead of taking full responsibility herself. She may start viewing herself as wronged, and stop looking at the good lesson she has been taught. Any gratitude for her husband’s hard work has gone away, and been replaced with bitterness.

While this is a childish reaction to getting spanked, it is not so rare. It can be a trial being spanked, especially when it leaves one sore later on. It can bruise the ego. Both man and wife need to be prepared to confront this possible problem if it appears. They need to be able to recognize it, and nip it in the bud, before it creates more problems. 

One point that will help bring a woman back on the path, is taking full responsibility for her actions. She may think she has, but she is beginning to push it off herself. She may be finding ways to minimize her wrong, or to place the blame on someone else. She needs to know that her punishment was earned by her own behavior. It’s not the fault of her husband. It’s her just deserts. If she has to remember what she did to get in trouble, no matter how shameful, then she should remember, and know that her choice brought her to those negative results. No one else did that. Her backside is burning because of no one else but the woman in the mirror. 

A woman may start to feel anger at her husband for leaving her bottom sore, and start presenting it as an injustice. But that feeling needs to be replaced with anger at her own wrong. She needs to think about her own sin and hate it. That’s where the problem actually lies. She should be angry that she chose to do poorly, even when she knew better, and let that knowledge commit her to different behavior. That anger is not there to make her feel down on herself, but to recognize her bad actions, turn away from them, and choose to do differently. Every time she feels sore sitting down, she can be thinking about how she will handle it better next time. If it has been her mouth that got her in trouble, she should be thinking about how she speaks next time. If it was her negligence that got her in trouble, she should be thinking of how she will fulfill her responsibilities. That pain should also help her anticipate, and stay away from wrong choices in the future. When she sees the possibility of those poor choices arise, she’s got to know there is pain in making them, and remember to hold back. 

Remember, the pain you feel, which may be for a few minutes as you are spanked, or for a few days of soreness, is small compared to the pain and harm that can be caused by breaking the rules. The pain on your behind is pain you could have causes yourself and others through your actions. You have the opportunity to feel it for a short period of time, so others don’t have to feel much worse for longer. It is a taste of sin, which is there to remind you, and is your friend when you humbly accept it. Think about the lesson of the spanking also, and that will help see the point of the pain. Keep your eyes on your goal. It is not mindless pain, but the healing kind of pain, which you can be certain will be over before long. That lesson is a valuable treasure you should be thinking about. 

Pain can be an excellent motivator. I advise wives to let the pain of a spanking motivate them. They will lose out on some of the benefits of correction if they are resenting it in their hearts. Let it feed and direct them. Understanding how that trial helps guide you will make sure you do not feel bitter towards your husbands.  Any feeling like that needs to be replaced with gratefulness for what he has given you. He has given you a much better path than you chose, and he’s taken you out of danger. He’s helped you in doing your work correctly. Those things are all out of love, and will serve you, so you ought to be able to feel grateful and to express gratitude, despite any tears that come with correction. No woman is so big that she cannot be humbled sometimes. 

A husband should also know to recognize and rebuke bad attitudes following a spanking. He needs to make sure his wife takes responsibility for her actions, and knows that what she has earned are the fruits of her own behavior. He needs to respond to any bad attitude or complaining following a spanking, with a clear verbal correction. He needs to remind his wife that the only one to blame for her sore behind is herself. She should be angry at her wrong, and not at her husband. If his wife is brazenly rejecting the lesson he has given her, especially if she is continuing with disrespect, a husband should consider if a second and harder spanking is called for. It’s always possible, if it wasn’t thorough enough, that her spanking did not leave her fully submissive, and she consequently needs to spend more time over the knee. A husband should also make sure that he has a good period of restoration immediately following a spanking. This period does not just make sure a wife is committed to better behavior and is sorry for her wrong, but also allows the husband to express his love to his wife, and to reconnect with her affectionately. Take time to express both your love and your confidence in your wife. Let her know you believe in her, and love what she does each day. You are confident she will make you very happy in the future. 

A wife’s reaction to her punishment is what instills the benefit into her. It is her sincere acceptance, and humble willingness to learn which help transform her the most. To reject learning is a foolish and hard-hearted thing. It will make more trouble in the future. A man should guide his wife in being soft, and in embracing the lesson which comes with correction. It could be to speak with more respect, to stop procrastinating, or to follow her diet, but it is always for her good. If she learns it, there will be fewer spankings she has to experience. She should know he does what he does with care and concern for her. But she may not make excuses or shift the blame. She will be transformed through the lesson to a woman more greatly serving her husband. 

NOTE:

The topic has briefly come up in the comments before about the movie “Shiny Happy People,” and the negative way it presents Bible believing Christians and homeschoolers, along with its accusations against Bill Gothard and IBLP. It can fairly be called a hit piece.

I would recommend anyone look at the new response movie: “Shiny Slander,” which is still in the making. A woman has done a series of videos related to the movie on Youtube which respond to the many lies and misrepresentations present in the film, and given by those who appear in it. She has obviously done a great deal of research. Her videos do a good job of setting the record straight. You can also look at the support page for “Shiny Slander.


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14 responses to “When the Response to Discipline is Anger”

  1. Mrsjohn Avatar

    Thank you so much for this.
    I have been angry after a spanking without being able to explain why or how to deal with it. I know now I need to change my attitude and maybe ask for longer spankings.

    1. aronhusband Avatar
      aronhusband

      You’re welcome. Something definitely needs to change if you are angry after being spanked.

  2. DarcyNH Avatar

    Good article Aron. It’s important for us wives to remember when we’re being punished that God intended for our husbands to have this dominion over us, and that by holding us accountable, our husbands are being Godly and making us more Godly as well. If ever I am angry after a punishment, I always try to replace that feeling of anger with a feeling of godliness.

    1. aronhusband Avatar
      aronhusband

      Thank you for your comment, Darcy. That is the right attitude to have towards discipline. It will allow for more growth in the spirit, and sincere repentance than just blindly receiving a punishment. It is for your wholehearted learning.

  3. Merichelle Avatar
    Merichelle

    This is a hot topic for me. With summer here, I was tempted to watch tennis on TV instead of homemaking chores- including drifting to improper thoughts about some of the players. Husband came in, banned TV for a week and sent me to the corner for a couple of long hours. I was angry- but after time reflecting, I realised it was a good call on his part- his calmness is amazing and he certainly sorted me out without having to exhaust himself with a formal spanking. I’m a lucky girl 🙂

  4. As I was reading this, I  thought of myself early on in our relationship/marriage.   I often did not take a spanking well and I was angry at him for correcting me, as if I was a naughty little girl.   Back in the mid 1990ies my husband knew how to handle my childish reaction.  As I was reading this my mind started thinking Aron is going to recommend a second spanking.   And sure enough  you said:   “… that her spanking did not leave her fully submissive, and she consequently needs to spend more time over the knee. ”   And did back then -30 years ago.  

    I thought my bottom was  on fire and I was angry about it.  And I expressed my anger at him and he let me express my anger for a while.  Then, after a while he had enough of my disrespect and he literally took me by the hand (or wrist).  Within moments I realized his  plan and I dug my heels in and resisted with all my might.  I know Aron is not supportive of a husband’s manhandling his wife, BUT  I am glad he did. With my bottom still on FIRE, no way was I going over his knees again.  But luckily my husband was about 10 times stronger than me. I had as much of a chance as a naughty 6 old little girl who didn’t want to go over her Daddy’s lap.   He did not hold back and spanked the fight out of me.  After the second spanking,  I was totally submissive and  just very thankful that my spankings were over and I was willing to do whatever to avoid ever being spanked again. 

    I was 23 year old and felt very independent  and developed a high level of self will and a high level of  autonomy.  I would say I was very hard headed and not been corrected by spanking since I was 13 years old.  But Ladies and Gentlemen, I want you to know over the course of several years and many spanking– – Spanking worked their magic on me, and I became a good wife,  I became a submissive wife who loved her husband very deeply.   I never liked getting the spanking (they hurt like H___L) but they were exactly what I needed at the time.   I now have become pro- domestic discipline and I think more or most wifes could benefit from a real hot seat from time to time. And it has been surprising to me how many wives desire a good hard correction but their husband’s won’t do it .  And to all the Wives and Husbands reading Aron’s articles – would agree with Aron on each article I have ever read.  And his words need to be put into action. 

    Ladies get your panties down.  Men raise your hand high. 

    1. aronhusband Avatar
      aronhusband

      Thank you for your endorsement, Jelena, and for sharing the story. I appreciate your dedication to discipline in marriage. No, I do not endorse simply grabbing a lady and whacking away, but I do know that some wives basically accept their husband has a right to, and will not give him any trouble, besides momentary resistance. Many wives want and need discipline. More men need to be in the know about this. Your story does illustrate how important it is to be thorough about giving a spanking, to bring a lady fully to submission, in your case even if you need to repeat it. A foul attitude can be successfully spanked away. It just takes being strict and not letting up.

    2. Merichelle Avatar
      Merichelle

      Jelena, we support your approach to spanking totally, but we young, obedient ladies are not perfect and sometimes our displeasure is obvious even if we try to avoid showing it. Ladies with more experience of a disciplined marriage like yourself find the ritual of being spanked a lot easier- we younger ones have to accept that only a firm hand on a bare bottom can mould us into virutous wives.

  5. Sophia Avatar

    Aron, as always, I appreciate your posts that contain guidance for your female readers. It is true that during punishment, a woman must submit to her husband both physically (by enduring the pain) and mentally (by softening her heart and accepting her own responsibility). I am grateful not to have struggled with lingering anger or resentment after punishment, and for that, I credit my husband. His spankings are always sound, and he does not stop until my tears and apologies are flowing freely. I am lectured sternly throughout, and I am usually sore for at least a full day. He takes his responsibilities as my husband very seriously, and I both fear and respect him.

    But he never leaves me alone with my suffering afterwards, and I think that’s just as important. He acknowledges that being humbled and spanked is hard, and that facing my own misbehavior is often painfully embarrassing. He knows I feel genuine sorrow for my sins against him, and he explains that it’s my willingness to repent that makes me his sweet and cherished bride. He tells me how proud he is of me for accepting his punishment and vowing to do better. He tells me that he knows I can and will do better.

    I think if he left me alone with my shame and the terrible regret I feel, I might be tempted to make myself feel better by blaming other things outside of myself. Instead, I find my comfort under his wing, where I don’t need to feel conflicted about my imperfections. God has brought us together so that he may teach me and guide me, knowing that I will inevitably stumble and require punishment from time to time. Accepting that this is part of God’s plan for holy marriage helps me to be a little bit kinder to myself in those moments, which then makes it easier to admit that I was wrong. God never expected me to be perfect or even fully independent. It’s okay that I need to lean on my husband. It’s okay that I need to be corrected.

    It’s taken me time to get here. I used to feel so conflicted about wanting to be punished before I was married. (Was I secretly evil and kinky?) Then I felt guilt that I couldn’t be consistently good without periodic spankings. I felt guilty for “forcing” my husband to spank me because I kept making mistakes, giving in to laziness or a flash of anger or ego. But I’m beginning to accept that this is the ebb and flow of a healthy marriage, and that in spite of my less than perfect record, with my husband’s help, I am growing into a more graceful woman who is closer to God. He created me to be imperfect, and the more I accept the humility grounded in that Biblical truth, the easier it is for me to accept the discipline I’ve earned from my loving husband. To defy my husband or harbor anger against him would be to defy God, denying that I am His holy creation. I am made soft so that my husband may mold me into a woman pleasing to God.

    1. aronhusband Avatar
      aronhusband

      Thank you for your comment, Sophie. I greatly appreciate your mature outlook on serving your husband, and on accepting discipline. It really can leave a woman with shame or with bitterness if she in never properly disciplined, and it can leave the home life in chaos as well. A woman should always be seeking to learn from her husband’s correction, and any anger is a sign of rejection of her husband, and of God’s order. A godly wife actually wants to be refined, and to be made more virtuous. Discipline is nothing to react against. It is her helper as she grows. Although difficult, the best attitude after correction is gratitude and a desire to serve.

  6. My husband, Steven and I just started DD today actually. I am feeling so angry at him right now and not sure why.

    Long story short, married 10 years at age 19, 4 children, he wants more. Our marriage is a complete mess. I started reading Aron’s site because I was lost and looking for help and didn’t want to destroy our marriage through divorce and it seemed like something that could work and help us. I told my husband about it and asked if he would be interested in taking the lead and being the authority in our marriage and to back up his authority by holding me accountable with spankings. He wasn’t feeling it. So I started printing the articles and leaving them in his office to read with some side notes as to how this would really help me with my issues and how destructive I have been in our marriage.

    He has told me that he has been extremely angry with me for all the disrespect I have shown him and he doesn’t know what to do with those feelings. I encouraged him to read Aron’s site further. He said he was afraid of hurting me if he spanked me as he had so much anger in him. He also said I may not like what I am now asking for as he could see himself as a true leader and a strict disciplinarian when it is needed.

    Well today he showed me. I spoke to him with disdain and used a curse word and he took me to our bedroom and gave me a complete spanking session. We didn’t have the children as they were at his parents.

    First, he gave me a list of all his rules and how he wants his home run. What he will not accept from me any further and what must change immediately. He told me he knows it will take time to unlearn bad behaviors and replace them with good behaviors and that he will give me 2 warnings before giving me a spanking.

    There are certain things such as how I dress and speak that will take more time and require more spankings to get me to where he wants me to be submissive with him, that it will be an ongoing process.

    He also spoke of my procrastinating and my always keeping him waiting and being late along with not keeping up with my chores. He said it will take time to turn around but he will be consistent and he feels changes will start occurring immediately.

    I guess I don’t know why I am so angry right now. He used a paddle on me and I am really sore and hurting. I wanted him to take this control and put me in my place but I guess I am in shock he did it this way and that I didn’t jump up and accepted it. I guess I didn’t really think about it hurting and humbling me.

    He lectured me from his heart and how bad of a wife I have been but he even found so many great things to say about me as his wife and as a mother to his children. It was a very long session as he had so much to say because the last 6 years of our marriage has been so destructive by my poor behavior with him.

    I wanted this but am physically hurting, but deep down I know I deserved what he gave me. I also never saw him so determined and he followed through completely, he sexually rode me extremely roughly after spanking me, which even humbled me more.

    I don’t know what to do with this anger. I know if I go to him with it I will be bending again for disrespecting his authority and decision.

    Jill

    [edited by Aron for content]

    1. Jill, I hope that you and your husband have continued to explore the ways in which discipline can restore your marriage. Aron’s blog has so many good ideas for how men can begin to exercise their rightful authority, and it was so loving of you to print out specific topics for him to consider, while sharing how you thought it might help you to be a better wife for him. It sounds like you were very honest with yourself about the ways in which you were falling short and what you truly needed to improve. Then you gave your man the time and space he needed to decide whether and how he would like to implement this way of life. It’s truly wonderful that he saw the need for real authority and discipline in your marriage, just as you did, for it will surely bring you closer together.

      I wish I had read and responded to you earlier, to give you encouragement in the aftermath of your first spanking. I know from experience that it can be very overwhelming to feel the pain, shame, and regret from something you actually asked your husband for. Getting what you know you needed isn’t as fulfilling or as romantic as it may have seemed. And yet, that day was a beautiful first step forward in your new life together. He set rules for you regarding the things you already know you shouldn’t be doing, that are truly destructive to your marriage. He set clear parameters by offering two warnings. And he gave you a solid paddling so that you know what will happen when you disobey or offer him disrespect. He gave you everything you asked for and everything your marriage needs to heal.

      The anger you felt while posting your comment is very natural, but maybe a bit misdirected. Your sinful, prideful heart has been able to do whatever selfish thing she wanted to do for years now, and she’s become a bit spoiled. You’ve seen the harm this has caused your marriage, and you knew you were helpless to put a stop to it by yourself, so you asked your husband to step up. Once he saw that this was the only way, he bent you right over and gave that sinful side of you a proper thrashing. Now that spoiled little girl inside of you is pouting and angry and looking for someone else to blame for her sore bottom. But you are wiser than she is. You’re the one who effectively put that paddle in your husband’s hands and asked him to punish her. You are the one who didn’t “jump up” or run away. You accepted the spanking like the good wife you really want to be. The good wife your husband sees and was able to praise, even in the midst of punishing the awful disrespect you’ve been showing him.

      I hope that as your tears dried that night, your freshly humbled heart began to soften a bit and reflect on who really was to blame for your paddling. A little bit of anger is understandable in the beginning stages, but it’s ultimately very destructive. I think you knew that in your heart, since you said that if you told him how you felt, you’d be bending over again. I would encourage you to always be honest with your husband, no matter the consequences. If a spanking is given, a spanking was earned. Anger is hard to hide, so if it didn’t fade as your bottom healed, I suspect it bubbled over into resentment or disrespect that earned you that second spanking anyway.

      I’m so glad you reached out to Aron to share your experience with his readers. You seemed so vulnerable and sad that I felt like I had to reach out to you to offer what comfort I could. The first punishment is just hard. I loved being submissive, but offering my man my love and respect was joyous and voluntary. Being forced to acknowledge the ways in which I fell short of his expectations while painfully spanked over his knee was deeply humbling in a way I had never experienced before. But submitting to his punishment, whether I agree with it in the moment or not, is a far more difficult, but perhaps more meaningful, way to show him my respect.

      I can say you won’t always be punished as often as you surely are right now. It takes some time, but discipline will eventually come to serve its real purpose as a deterrent. You will learn that rebellious words are far more painful when spoken aloud than when swallowed. You’ll accept that punctual is just easier than being punished. You’ll remember that his warnings are backed by fire. And then, finally, you’ll spend less time under his paddle and more time being proud of the beautiful new woman you’re becoming.

      Take care, Jill!

  7. Confused Avatar

    I think I have a question about it. I don’t know that I’ve ever been angry after a spanking, but I have felt… Close to nothing. I feel repentant about whatever wrong, very quickly after I do it. I accept punishment because that’s what happens if you break the rules. But I guess my question is: is it ineffective for me if it doesn’t cause me to feel bad all over again? Like I said, it happens after I confess and repent. But … I guess I can’t explain it. I don’t enjoy being spanked. I do hate it. It hurts, but not a lot. It just kind of leaves me with a feeling of “okay, well, that’s done.” I think the whole concept of discipline in marriage is a good thing. I just don’t know why it seems to affect other people more.

    1. aronhusband Avatar
      aronhusband

      Hello Confused, As far as it being effective, it matters more that you are improved in your behavior as well as your attitude. The feeling you experience during the discipline may or may not relate to how effective it is. If you do not feel much, as you say, the discipline could be too mild, or you may need more verbal direction during the session. The experience is a bit different for everyone. Focus on learning the lesson, and committing yourself to doing better.

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